Category: Reparations

Are the Greek Claims for War Reparations Justified?

By , June 18, 2013 12:31 am

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Posted in HuffingtonPost 17Jun2013

For the last few years the issue of Germany still owing major war reparations to Greece has resurfaced with an increasing intensity. Some of the press reports and some of the comments to related reports question the validity of the Greek claims. This questioning includes:

The claims have been written off by the London Agreement of 1953.

Article 5, paragraph 2, of the London Agreement of 1953 states:

“Consideration of claims arising out of the second World War by countries which were at war or were occupied by Germany during the war, and by nationals of such countries, against the Reich and agencies of the Reich, including costs of German occupation. … shall be deferred until the final settlement of the problem of reparation.”

Thus, the obligation of Germany to pay reparations was not written off by the London Agreement of 1953.

No claims can be made so many years after the end of the war.

Greece has demanded payment of the war reparations, awarded by the Paris Conference of 1946, as well as of a forced occupation loan, in 1945, 1946, 1947, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1974, 1987, and 1995. At the London Conference of 1953, Germany sought and succeeded to defer payments. It was successfully argued that the German government should not have to assume the obligation for the entire debt since it represented only West Germany, and settlement of claims was postponed until Germany would be reunited.

Germany was unified in 1990 with an agreement between Germany, the USSR, Great Britain, the USA and France. On July 23, 1990, the German magazine Der Spiegel wrote that with this Agreement, Germany avoided the nightmare of a peace agreement, which would have brought to the fore demands of reparations from all directions. In other words, with this Agreement Germany sought to circumnavigate article 5, paragraph 2 of the London Agreement.

Today’s Germans cannot be held responsible for reparations.

The demand of Greece for payment has been made continuously from the end of the war up to date, to the generation responsible for the crimes and to their children. It is the Germans that requested and succeeded, with the London Agreement of 1953, to postpone payment of their obligations, and transfer them to their children and grandchildren. These children and grandchildren benefited greatly from the deferral of payments. Germany’s affluence today is greatly due to the fact that Greece and other countries accepted to defer payment of reparations, and to give the opportunity to the Germans that committed the crimes to rebuilt and build a better future for their children, while the Greeks had to build on the ruins left behind by the German war machinery after a brutal and completely unprovoked war.

Reactions of the German government 

In an interview to the Greek newspaper Kathimerini (May 12, 2013), the German ambassador to Greece, Wolfgang Dold, said:

“On this subject there is a legal aspect and a moral and political one. Concerning the legal aspect, the essence is that there is no legal base for Greece to claim reparations from Germany. The legal reasons are complex and I would not like to elaborate because of this complexity and because I have to be absolutely accurate… I understand that there are different approaches on the legality of the claims… as Germans we always accepted our moral responsibility for what happened in Greece…. when we go to all these villages whose inhabitants were martyred, we completely understand the magnitude of the sorrow inflicted, because the wounds are still open. On a moral basis, I understand that Greece can claim and Germany can do more to prove that undertakes responsibility of her past…. The official position of the federal government is that there is no difference between the forced occupation loan and the remaining claims for reparations…. As a lawyer I know that there are some legal questions that need to be answered. That is, if the claims have a legal basis, and if they do, whether they have been satisfied, but even if they have not been satisfied, if they can be satisfied although they exist.”

The ambassador claimed that there is no legal base for Greece to claim reparations for reasons that are complex, and he would not like to elaborate, because he could not be absolutely accurate, but he understands that there are different approaches on the legality of the claims. He stated: “as Germans we always accepted our moral responsibility for what happened in Greece.” Acceptance of moral responsibility is not just a rhetorical utterance, or hiding behind legal complexities of an international legal system which in many respects has been designed to protect the powerful. Acceptance of responsibility means that everything possible is done to alleviate the consequences of the crimes.

He understands “that Greece can claim and Germany can do more to prove that undertakes responsibility of her past.” He stated the official position of his government of no differentiation between the forced occupation loan and the claims of reparations, although even Hitler had recognized the obligation of Germany to pay back the loan. As a lawyer he knows “that there are some legal questions that need to be answered.” This contradicts the statement of the German Ministry of Foreign Affairs (April 1, 2012) that “the question of war reparations is no longer an issue,” and that of Mr. Schaeuble, finance minister (April 11, 2013), that “this matter has been resolved long ago,” without saying how. Then he further stated: “but even if they have not been satisfied, if they can be satisfied, although they exist.” How can this be reconciled with his claim and with that of many German officials that Germany always accepted moral responsibility for what happened in Greece? What has been and is asked of Germany is, as a matter of justice, to pay her obligations to Greece, which is within the limits of what can be satisfied, unless acceptance of moral responsibility is just empty rhetoric.

UK Compensates Kenyan Torture Victims, Boosts Greece’s Hope For WWII German Reparations

By , June 12, 2013 11:24 pm

By Ilias Sourdis
Posted in HuffingtonPost 09Jun2013

Will Germany make the similar bold move to end the Odyssey for justice to the Greek victims and close these dark chapters of history?
Among the major media networks, I was delighted to read the other day also in the DW (Deutsche Welle) website:

The British government has agreed to compensate 5,200 Kenyans tortured during the Mau Mau uprising against colonial rule in the 1950s. The settlement came after a High Court ruling in favor of three elderly Kenyans.
Foreign Secretary William Hague told the House of Commons the government would pay a total of 19.9 million pounds sterling (23.5 million euros, $30.8 million) to 5,228 clients represented by a British law firm
.”

Ironically, this piece of good news came at the moment that Greece is preparing to commemorate the 69th anniversary of the Distomo massacre where on June 10, 1944 the German occupiers brutally executed 218 innocent villagers and torched the homes of the entire town. Distomo is just one of the long lists of atrocities committed by the Germans in Greece which, despite the non-stop efforts of Greece for justice, sadly until this date none of the cases were settled and the victims were never compensated.

While we are congratulating both the Kenyan victims for their huge victory and the British government for their courage to acknowledge wrongdoings, apologize for their actions and compensate the victims, we wish this case to serve as a strong precedent and become the light in the long dark tunnel for the unsettled Greek WWII pending reparations cases.

Undoubtedly, this victory of the Kenyans, which its timing can also be called as a “gift for the Distomo victims upcoming anniversary,” it will boost tremendously the hopes to achieve smooth and quick justice for all the cases of the Greek victims as well. Given the utter failure of the legal system to deliver justice to the Greek victims of brutal crimes, this precedent must serve as a denial to Germany’s convenient excuses such as; Germany is immune to paying WWII reparation or the time has lapsed therefore, the claims cannot continue to be sought and other shallow dilatory tactics to evade settlement.

Greece has started the legal struggles for justice more than six decades ago and acquired first hand experience qualifying her to state that obtaining justice from the existing legal system is a very steep uphill climb and almost impossible to reach despite the presence of compelling evidence and Germany’s inability to prove innocence.

Greeks, as well as other victims of injustice, shall have a good reason to celebrate today and thank the Kenyan victims who, with their persistent struggle for justice have reminded all of us that “justice delayed is justice denied”. The winner in this case is also the rule of law which must be respected by all and applied fairly to every member of our society, regardless of its race, size, financial status, or whether they are strong or weak nations.

We also expect Germany, a respected nation of the world community, to make the bold move and settle with finality all her obligations to the Greek victims. Critics, who suggest that Greece must give up the struggle for seeking justice for her victims, must understand that such a suggestion is immoral, absurd and illegal. To neglect the rights of Greek victims is also a non-negotiable obligation for the Greek government. Instead the critics to the Greek claims including Germany, will be of immense help if they support the quick resolution of the cases as such a move will serve as a deterrent to future aspirant invaders, occupiers and perpetrators of atrocities to be reminded that crime does not pay and sooner or later the law will catch up with them.

During WWII German invasion and occupation, Greece suffered the worst type of massive war atrocities when the country was first attacked by Italy and after fierce fights which resulted to a great number of casualties, the Greek armed forces defeated and repelled the invading Italian forces in the north-west part of Greece. Unfortunately that victory was short lived because few months later during the spring of 1941 Germany attacked and invaded Greece causing massive crimes against the population and the country’s entire infrastructure has been reduced into debris. Almost every Greek town is decorated with memorials on which long lists of the victims names are engraved.

These massive crimes were committed just less than 10 years earlier than the ones committed in Kenya and therefore it is imperative now for the international legal system to use its impartiality and invite Germany to apologize for the atrocities committed, cut short the delay of settling her obligations to Greece and together with the pending war reparations, bury into the dark pages of her history this inglorious chapter of brutal war atrocities and crimes against humanity.

We know that no amount of compensations can heal the wrongs and we cannot bring back the lives of the innocent victims but it is important that we punish the perpetrators of crimes to ensure that they cannot circumvent the rule of law.

The British people must be proud and honored of their leaders for having the courage to admit mistakes in the past and deliver justice to the victims. The global legal societies too, must applaud this landmark decision which they can use as a milestone point of reference on many other similar pending cases.

With this precedent already on official world legal records, the Greek cases can be lost ONLY if double standards of justice are applied on their resolution. We count on the world community to prevent that from happening.

More about the Greek pending cases including bibliography can be found here: www.greece.org/blogs/wwii

Secret Athens Report: Berlin Owes Greece Billions in WWII Reparations

By , April 13, 2013 10:22 am

By Georgios Christidis in Thessaloniki

SPIGEL ONLINE: “A top-secret report compiled at the behest of the Finance Ministry in Athens has come to the conclusion that Germany owes Greece billions in World War II reparations. The total could be enough to solve the country’s debt problems, but the Greek government is wary of picking a fight with its paymaster.

The headline on Sunday’s issue of the Greek newspaper To Vima made it clear what is at stake: “What Germany Owes Us,” it read. The article below outlined possible reparations payments Athens might demand from Germany resulting from World War II. A panel of experts, commissioned by the Greek Finance Ministry, spent months working on the report — an 80-page file classified as “top secret.”

Read full article in Spiegel


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Συγκροτήθηκε Ομάδα Εργασίας για τiς γερμανικές αποζημιώσεις

By , September 11, 2012 3:37 pm

Ο Αναπληρωτής Υπουργός Οικονομικών, Χρήστος Σταϊκούρας, υπέγραψε απόφαση με την οποία συγκροτήθηκε στο Γενικό Λογιστήριο του Κράτους (Γ.Λ.Κ.) Ομάδα Εργασίας για την έρευνα των αρχείων του σε σχέση με το θέμα των Γερμανικών Αποζημιώσεων.
Η Ομάδα Εργασίας είναι η κάτωθι:
1. Παναγιώτης Καρακούσης, Γενικός Διευθυντής, ως Συντονιστής
2. Βασίλειος Κατριβέσης, Γενικός Διευθυντής, ως Αναπλ. Συντονιστής
3. Κωνσταντίνος Σπηλιωτόπουλος, Διευθυντής, ως Μέλος
4. Ελένη-Στυλιανή Ρωμαΐδου, Διευθύντρια, ως Μέλος
Ως Γραμματείς ορίζονται οι Εισηγήτριες: Αντιγόνη Κουλουμβάκη και Γεωργία Χαλούλου.
Α. Έργο της Ομάδας Εργασίας είναι η έρευνα των αρχείων του Γ.Λ.Κ. σχετικά με το θέμα των Γερμανικών Αποζημιώσεων.
Β. Τα Μέλη της Ομάδας Εργασίας δεν θα λάβουν αποζημίωση για το έργο τους.
Γ. Η ομάδα εργασίας οφείλει να παραδώσει το έργο της έως την 31/12/2012.

Το Βήμα, 11 Σεπτεμβρίου 2012

Τα Αρχεία των Γερμανικών Αποζημιώσεων

By , March 30, 2012 12:08 am

Τα συμπερασματα των μελετων που εγειναν στο Υπουργειο Εξωτερικων Ελλαδος λιγο πριν τον Νοεμβριο του 1946 απο την επιτροπη του πρεσβευτου Δαλιεττου για να προσδιορισθουν οι ζημειες που υπεστη η Ελλαδα στον ΒΠΠ απο την Γερμανικη κατοχη εχουν δημοσιευθει με μεγαλη σαφηνεια απο το Αθανασιο Σμπαρουνη, που ηταν και ο αρχηγος της Ελληνικης αντιπροσωπιας στο Παρισι τον Νοεμβριο του 1946 οταν εγεινε εκει η πρωτη Διεθνης Συσκεψη στο θεμα των Πολεμικων Αποζημιωσεων. Ας ληφθει υπ’ οψην οτι του Σμπαρουνη το βιβλιο εχει εκδοθει απο το Ελληνικο Κρατος, δηλαδη ειναι η επισημη εκδοχη του θεματος. Ενα μερος του βιβλιου (το οποιον εχει γραφτει στα Ελληνικα αλλα και στα Αγγλικα, για να μπορει να διαβαστει απο τα μελη του ΟΗΕ) ειναι και η εκθεσης που λεγεται

ΟΙΚΟΝΟΜΙΚΗ ΚΑΤΑΣΤΑΣΗ ΤΗΣ ΕΛΛΑΔΟΣ ΥΠΟ ΚΑΤΟΧΗΝ

Εκθεσις υποβληθεισα προς την εν Καιρω Ελληνικην Κυβερνησιν
την 7η Οκτωβριου 1943.

Αυτο δειχνει οτι ο Σπαρουνης ηταν σε στενη επαφη και με την Ελληνικη Κυβερνηση στην Μεση Ανατολη. Ηταν αλλωστε στην κυβερνητικη του θεση και πριν απο την Κατοχη.

Ο Αθανασιος Σμπαρουνης διετελεσε Υπερησιακος Υφυπουργος των Οικονομικων καθ’ολην την δειαρκεια της Κατοχης, και στο βιβλιο που εξεδωσε το 1950, ΜΕΛΕΤΑΙ ΚΑΙ ΑΝΜΝΗΣΕΙΣ ΕΚ ΤΟΥ Β ΠΑΓΚΟΣΜΙΟΥ ΠΟΛΕΜΟΥ, παρουσιαζει εκτενεστατα τα διατρεξαντα στο Υπ. Οικονομικων και πολλα εκ των συμβαντων στην Τραπεζα Ελλαδος κατα την Κατοχην, κυριως σχετικα με το Δανειο αλλα και με ολες τις πληρωμες Εξοδων Κατοχης. Ειναι ενα πολυ καλο τεκμηριο. Ο Δαλιεττος δεν εσταλει στο Παρισι για την Διεθνη Συμφωνια Περι Αποζημιωσεων γιατι εσταλει στο Βελιγραδι οπου ηταν πρεσβευτης. Αλλα μελη της επιτροπης στο Παρισι ηταν ο Διευθηντης Υπ. Οικονομικων Ζαφειροπουλος, ο καθηγητης Δελληγιαννης , και οι Αλεξανδρακης (απο το Υπουργειο Εξωτερικων) και Κωβαιος ( απο το Υπουργειο Οικονομικων).

Πρεπει να λαβωμε υπ οψην οτι τα συμπερασματα των μελετων προσδιορισμου ζημειων εξαρτωνταν κατα μεγαλο μερος απο τον τροπο που ειχαν διαμορφωσει οι Μεγαλες Δυναμεις το “”Ερωτηματολογιον”” που εστειλαν στα διαφορα κρατη που υπεστησαν την θηρειωδεια της Γερμανικης κατοχης.
Αυτο το ερωτηματολογιο ειχε συνταχθει κατα τροπον που να ευνοει την Γερμανια. Δηλαδη παρελειπε πολλες ερωτησεις που θα εδειχναν την καταστροφη στο πληρες αυτης μεγεθος. Αυτην την παρατηρηση την κανει ο Σμπαρουνης.

Ειναι επισης ενδειαφερον οτι τα συμπερασματα των μελετων της επιτροπης Δαλιεττου, ειχαν φθασει στο Παρισι πριν καν να τα δουν τα μελη της επιτροπης του Σμπαρουνη! {{ Η Ελληνικη ιστορια επαναλαμβανεται }}.

Το συμπερασμα της επιτροπης Δαλιεττου ηταν οτι οι ζημειες ηταν πανω απο 14 δισεκκατομυρια δολλαρια του 1938. Το δε Κατοχικο Δανειο ηταν 3.5 δισεκκατομυρια. Τελικα η συνεδριαση απεφασισε οτι η Ελλαδα εδικαιουτο οπωσδηποτε τουλαχιστον να παρει 7 δισεκκατομυρια (δηλαδη τα μισα απο οτι ειχε ζητησει η επιτροπη) καθως και το Κατοχικο Δανειο ολοκληρο, το οποιον δανειο αλλωστε ηταν διακρατικης φυσεως, δηλαδη μεταξυ Βερολινου και Αθηνας, και οχι μεταξυ αρχων κατοχης και κατεχομενης Ελλαδας.

Η διεξοδικη μελετη του Τασου Ηλιαδακη, που εξεδωθει το 1995 στο θεμα αυτο, δεινει πολλες λεπτομερειες για τις οικονομικες και αλλες παρανομιες των Γερμανων, και δεινει και τα ονοματα πολλων εταιριων που ακομα και σημερα βρισκονται εν πληρη δρασει στην Ελλαδα (πχ Siemens αλλα και πολλες αλλες) . Και τελος ας μην ξεχναμε τις μελετες των επιτροπων που εδρασαν υπο τον Κωσταντινο Δοξιαδη σχετικα με υλικες καταστρφες σε ολους τους τομεις της Ελληνικης ζωης, βιομηχανιας, τις εκτενεστατες ληστειες, τις καταστροφες του infrastructure κλπ κλπ. Ενα απο τα αποτελεματα των εργασιων αυτων των επιτροπων ηταν οτι το ελαχιστον 558,000 Ελληνες πολιτες εχασαν την ζωην τους ως αποτελεσμα της Γερμανικης κατοχης.

Βασιζομενοι στα 7+3.5= 10.5 δισ. δολλαρια (1938) με τοκους και επιτοκια το πολεμικο χρεος της Γερμανιας προς την Ελλαδα σημερα ξεπαιρναει το μισο τρισεκκατομυριο δολλαρια.

Πρεπει επισης να λαβωμε υπ’οψην μας, οτι οι ζημιες σε πολλες περιοχες της Ελλαδας καταγραφησαν πολυ ελλειπως, διοτι οι επιτροπες που ειχαν αναλαβει να υπολογισουν τις Γερμανικες ωμοτητες κυριως, και κατα δευτερευοντα λογο τις υλικες ζημιες , προς καταθεσην εις το ΟΗΕ, ειχαν μονο ενα μηνα γι’αυτην την σπουδαια δουλεια. Πχ ο Νικος Καζανταζακης ο οποιος ηταν υπευθηνος να υπολογεισει τις ζημιες και τα κακουργηματα στην Κρητη ειχε μονο 4 εβδομαδες στην διαθεση του, και το αυτοκινητο που του δωσαν οι αρχες για να επισκεφθει ολοκληρη την Κρητη και να καταγραψη τα κακουργηματα και τις ζημιες εχαλασε σε τρεις– τεσσερις μερες, και υποχρεωθηκε να κανει την υπολοιπη περιοδια … με γαιδουρακι. Ετσι παρελειψε και πολλα απο τα εγκληματα των Γερμανων, οπως πχ την σφαγη στο Κοντομαρι, που τελικα απεθανατησε ο Γερμανος αξιωματικος Peter Weixler.
Η εκθεση του Καζαντζακη εξεδωθη στο Ηρακλειο το 1945. O Κ. Δοξιαδης εξεδωσε το εργο Οι Θυσιες της Ελλαδος Στον Δευτερο Πολεμο το 1946.

Εκτος απο τα αρχεια στο Υπεξ που περιγραφουν πολλες απο τις σφαγες με γραμματα απο αυτοπτες μαρτυρες, και μερικες φορες σε εμπορικο χαρτι τυλιγματος λογω ελλιψεως καλλιτερου γραφικου υλικου (αλλα με μεγαλη προσοχη και καλλιγραφια για να κρατησουν τα τραγικα μεν αλλα ιστορικα γεγονοτα) υπαρχει και το φωτογραφικο αρχειο στο Μουσειο Πολεμου στην Αθηνα, οπου σε vertical files, υπαρχουν αναριθμητοι φακελοι με φωτογραφιες Γερμανικων ωμοτητων και αποδεικτικων στοιχειων της ενοχης των. Μεταξυ αυτων υπαρχουν και πολλες φωτογραφιες χωριων που ειχαν καταστραφει τελειως απο τους Γερμανους. Μια απ’αυτες δειχνει και το Λειδωρικι με κανενα τοιχο που να φτανει πανω απο μισο μετρο απο το εδαφος σε ολο το χωριο! Εινα ενα απο τα 1700 και…. χωρια-θυματα της Γερμανικης θηριωδιας.

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